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Originally Posted by Barney

“I'm confident we're going, but not overly as I think it can still go either way.... I think it all depends on how the youngsters value their right to vote... If they all come out and have their say we'll be staying.... If they all stay in bed stoned or drunk from the night before we'll be leaving.... At the end of the day it will effect them far greater than it will effect me....”

As this is a serious British decision, I think it will come down to the weather. Currently its rain and thunder for Thursday, so that will keep the youngsters and the apathetic from the polling stations, which mean we will remain.

If it's sunny, we've had it and we'll leave...

Sounds like a can of worms fraught with legal issues rather than a relaxing retirement!

How about  a nice island? This one was on the market for £250k.

No neighbours to worry about, your own kingdom, I love the idea 

How cool is that!!! Ed Force One, love it 

Confess to thinking Gove put up a better performance than Cameron. He looked a little rattled at times yesterday. Fair play though, he is under some serious pressure. Think I would have just thrown a paddywhack and quit by now.

Still voting remain, still struggling to find anyone else who is, and looking forward to the actual vote now on Thursday. If we remain, good result for me. If we vote leave and it's a huge majority which reflects the MLS poll, then result and should get some marketing capital out of it.

From the numerous conversations I've had with business owners, family and friends, the leave vote seems to be in the bag, assuming everyone who said they will vote actually vote. If it goes the other way, it will be fascinating to find out and understand why.

Or are they just taking the p*** 

That was my first foray into IT contracting after being freshly demobbed and previously on £12k a year. Felt like I had won the lottery after volunteering to monitor the systems for a big company.

I think about 4 x 486 computers rebooted into the year 1900, but still worked fine. I never made so much easy money in all my life and was very quickly hooked on civvy street 

Another example of people trying to get money for nothing!

Guitarist Jimmy Page and singer Robert Plant are expected to give evidence at the civil case in Los Angeles.

They are accused of lifting the song's opening notes from Taurus, a 1967 track by the band Spirit.

Page, 72, and Plant, 67, are being sued by a trust acting for a founding member of Spirit who died in 1997.

BBC News - Led Zeppelin appear in court over Stairway to Heaven dispute

Never heard such a load of old cobblers, and all these years later, a "trust" acting for the dead guitarist Randy Wolfe are now trying to claim $40m compensation.

Meanwhile on planet earth...

Led Zepplins Stairway to Heaven 

Read a great article on Marketing Week by Mark Ritson about his take on the debate:

"If British voters opt to stay in the European Union next Thursday we lose the last vestiges of sovereignty, immigration will run amok and rule of law will permanently cease to be a matter for British courts.

If we vote for Brexit our economy will most certainly crash, we will become a political and economic pariah state and, if European Council President Donald Tusk is to be believed, we will usher in the end of Western political civilisation as we know it.

Clearly, it’s rhetorical nonsense on both sides. The debates have become childish slanging matches in which both sides throw bullshit in ever increasing volumes at the other. I have no idea which way I will vote and even if I did, I certainly would not be advising you what to do. This is Marketing Week after all, not The Spectator.."

Marketing Week - The Leave campaign is winning the all-important emotional argument on Brexit

He then goes on to say from a marketing point of view, the leave campaign is pursuing the emotional argument based around sovereignty and immigration, versus staying as we are. So his argument leave voters are more likely to vote as their reasons are more emotive, than getting off the sofa and voting to stay as we are.

Interesting analysis, and probably spot on.

I thought Michael Gove handled himself very well and was very plausible on the special edition question time yesterday.

Felt myself nodding and agreeing with him! Oh gawd I'm sliding back towards the fence...

"the EU does more business with the UK than the UK does with them, so why would they put in tariffs which would hurt their own interests"

I'm completely with less bureaucracy, and no interest in a superstate which I think we are already protected from, but it's trade and impact to business which are my main motivators for staying.