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The end for Gaddafi! 23rd August 2011 12:11 AM
As a lad I had a Doberman called Gaddafi, he'd run at you at 30ph and knock you flying, but he'd never bite you.... nothing to do with the thread title, but just thought I'd mention it
Riots 21st August 2011 2:51 PM
I just can't understand some people in this country. They say that there are no job prospects. Rubbish!

I used to work as a project manager in construction before venturing out on my own. A labourer in London with no skills, no higher education (heck they don't even need to read or write) just needs his 2 hands to sweep up, help carry supplies around site, fill up the generators with diesel, clean formwork etc. earns min
Riots 21st August 2011 2:30 PM
Depends what you call good money... and the ammount of hours you are required to work, if I remember correctly these eastern european workers were on price work, all living in a portacabin supplied by the farmer or the gangmaster. And this is just so the likes of you and I can have cheaply produced food while the farmer who already receives subsidies from the EU or in other words the tax payer and half the world starves. If he had been allowed to pay people from certain African countries for 30pence a day they would have been happy to come for that ammount of money. Yet we'd still be moaning about it. You cant have it all ways, cheap materials, cheap labour and then expect full employment with high rents / council tax and other utility bills to pay let alone put food on the table. It's great saying that there are tax credits available and this benefit or that for low paid workers. But if your going out to work you should not have to depend on anything other than a living wage. 33 years ago I earned
HMRC arresting plumbers 19th August 2011 9:03 AM
Not sure what the answer is, there is however lots of ups and downs. A visit to the Uk plumbers forums will show that the majority of plumbers are struggling and have been over the last couple of years. You always get the odd one who says he gets all his work by word of mouth and he's rolling in it! But you know just by driving past his house that he spends the majority of his time watching daytime television. And this is the same for all self employed tradesmen, the rates of pay have also come crashing down a couple of years ago I would have to pay a plumber a minimum
HMRC arresting plumbers 17th August 2011 11:40 PM
Meant to mention, that a colleague of mine within the construction industry (carpenter) has recently commited suicide because he had these people chasing him, every single day of the week, he ended up working 14 -16 hours every day trying to get these people of his back. In the end he just lost it..
HMRC arresting plumbers 17th August 2011 11:29 PM
Don't you just love it, you'd think they'd get their own house in order before going after small fry BBC News - Unpaid tax crackdown: Five plumbers arrested by HMRC
If they only knew the reallity, I know of at least 7 plumbing / heating companies that have gone to the wall in the last 2 months. I've had at least 40 emails from youngsters in that same period of time, trying to get on to an apprenticeships. I know I could place an advert now for a plumbing vacancy and I would have between 40 and 100 responses by miday tomorrow. Yet the Government swears blind it is helping small businesses....
Riots 16th August 2011 1:22 PM
Every barrel has a bad 'un

"Gunner Liam Bretherton, 20, faces dismissal from the Army"
Silly boy, and is rightly being punished. The chances are he'll end up at Colchester Military Prison, then have a dishonorable discharge at the end of his sentence. What a waste of an opportunity...

Here's another 450 More than 450 Queen's guards convicted for crimes from GBH to drug possession | Mail Online

I believe the Met Police also has around 250 serving criminals....Sorry police officers
Riots 16th August 2011 12:18 AM
I think you'll find we'll have a bit more of what we've had recently and only those who choose to be blind will refuse to except that. I'm not on one side or the other, but if I was a youngster involved with the recent riots and now facing incarceration, apart from gaining some more street cred from my mates. I'd also be asking the question how can this be fair, after all those that govern us have be robbing everyone and have not been held accountable for their actions, yet I've gone out nicked a few pairs of jeans and a couple of bottles of drink and I'm facing jail...dosen't quite seem to be fair, does it?
Riots 15th August 2011 7:31 PM
wonder what those teenage squaddies who have been through the Afghanistan meat grinder think

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Well you could ask this hero http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8698832/Manchester-riots-soldier-charged-with-burglary-remanded-in-custody.html
Riots 15th August 2011 12:20 AM
I think that's the key, good old fashioned family values, and less reliance on the state.



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For a lot of people the 'family' has never existed so they never had family values, both parents either out of work or out at work. Those out of work end up being depressed with a "whats the point" attitude. Those with both parents at work end up as latchkey kids so end up being left to their own devices. Either option cannot be good for the child's upbringing. Each generation seems to have it's own set of problems with the youth of the day and long will it continue. Even as far back as 20 odd years ago the USA had feral youth gangs and the suggestion was that one day it would arrive here, but what did anyone do about it? Nothing, so everyone is partly to blame for recent events. Yes we can bang them all up, evict them from their social housing, stop their benefits, you can even birch them...But then what are you going to do with them? It's a different world now from what it was in the 50s,60s and 70s totally different culture and way of life. If they said in the 70s you will work 7 days a week up until your 70 there may well have been another riot then, but now we seem to have excepted it. We need to get to the root cause of what is rotten in this country and deal with it. It is in general a nasty big brother country, financial penalties for the smallest of misdemenours like parking for example, We also need to make things fair for everyone not just for the select few.
We all have a choice at the moment, we can just punish those that have recently been rioting or we can punish and deal with the issues that have caused it to happen in the first place. If we just punish and most are being sent down because of the media coverage then expect some rough times ahead because it's only going to get worse..