Whilst many would agree about the cost of keeping lifers in prison (£1000 per week). You have to question the motive for the death penalty, hard labour and inhumane conditions. That is simply vengeance on behalf of the state. Legal retribution to keep the masses happy. Is that really justice? Do people then get a fair trial?
How many would have attacked the actors from coronation street "before" the not guilty verdict? How many still believed they are guilty and should get a kicking anyway?
Who should die anyway? Is it just murderers or should we include rapists, child molesters, flashers, violent criminals, wife beaters and of course drug users? Druggies are a bigger drain on society in terms of cost and they generate far more victims.
Don't get me wrong, I have met and challenged some very unpleasant people in my current role, some will never be released because of the risks they pose.
Our current system has capacity to safely hold 79,000 inmates. As of yesterday we had 84,211 prisoners. For many different reasons we need to find a better way than just locking everyone up...
Did you know that almost 20,000 prisoners are simply on remand and have not been convicted of anything...they are waiting for a trial. How would you feel if you were innocent. I met a man who did 17 years for a crime he did not commit, a man who was fortunate that we don't use the death penalty any more.
Justice is not a simple commodity that can be dispensed in a perfect way. Our system remains adversarial in nature, the media "demand" justice when in realty they simply want a worthy news story that drives a thirst for revenge.
Just a thought.
Anything north of Watford, should be renamed The land of the great unwashed, we can also give G4S the contracts for border control..thumbsdown
Good idea in theory, however A4E, (action for employment) chris graylings flagship employment agency, being a privately owned company has not created any jobs, has not reduced unemployment and it has cost the tax payer millions.
Staff from this company began "inventing" new company's to show they were getting people in to work, those people did not exist nor did the job "but" the tax payer still got the invoice from A4E.
The state must manage the unemployed, there should be a single agenda that shows the individual you can and should earn a living and provide for your family. Regrettably state benefits have become a lifestyle choice for many. I am now working with third generation unemployed, the thought of working is terrifying for some. When asked to see me before 10:30 many often complain because I am being unreasonable.

Well G4S and SERCO lost the tagging contracts, They are now going to lend Capita their equipment and let them have a go.

I thought that was rather nice of them, but then, call me a cynic but is it fair to assume that G4S and SERCO have other interests? Like big new probation contracts that have been promised if they don't make a fuss over the tagging?

My bosses will be writing to me on Christmas Eve to advice if I have been selected for the new NPS or if I am to be dumped in to the new Community Rehabilitation Company, a holding firm for the new owners that are G4S.
Happy fecking Christmas to one and all.


I totally agree, this is all about money. Justice should not ever be influenced by profit. The new private contractors will need to pay for specialist providers to advise on alcohol, drugs, benefits and other social issues. Will G4S pay for the best services or will they just keep the tax payers money and pay lip service to the needs of their client....? It's not rocket science, it's a business, they will minimise expenditure and maximise profit. That includes creative accounting and fraud.....
The lunatics really are taking over the asylum...

That is exactly where we are heading.....
More crime, more victims and big profits for some

I have been a non smoker for 21 months. As we approach 2014 my job may be at risk but I have now got my health....

Hope you have another go at stopping dreamraven,

Well as we approach the wholesale destruction of the Probation Service and the introduction of 21 private companies who have no experience of managing offenders (but they will apparently do it much cheaper), the papers will have plenty of stories to tell in October 2014. That is when the corrupt and thieving bean counters take over asylum.
Profit will become a priority, public protection will be an expensive luxury of the past, quantity will always override quality. Arguments will ensue over who pays for an offenders drug treatment, bureaucrats will meet and discuss who should get the